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graspAU 03-27-2008 01:09 PM

DC starting house to house gun search program
 
They will go around knocking on doors, asking for permission to search houses. What a slippery slope we are on. Even more interesting is the person in the story that is opposing it, is former Mayor, conselman Marion Barry :banghead::

Police launch gun program
By David C. Lipscomb
March 25, 2008
The Metropolitan Police Department yesterday moved cautiously into its program to ask to search homes in the District for illegal guns while civil rights activists knocked on doors and used bullhorns to keep residents from participating.

"We shouldn't make the next casualty of street violence cherished civil rights," said Johnny Barnes, director of American Civil Liberties Union of the National Capital Area. "We're very uncomfortable with police randomly banging on doors without probable cause asking for access."

The department initiated its program by distributing literature at police stations and Boys and Girls Clubs to gauge public interest. It plans to begin the searches in two weeks.

Police spokeswoman Traci Hughes said the Safe Home program attempts to reach parents or guardians who think or know their children have guns and will offer amnesty for certain gun- and drug-possession charges.

Although amnesty was assured, ACLU workers held a press conference and went door to door in the Washington Highlands in Southeast, the first neighborhood to be targeted under the program. The department also has scheduled searches in Eckington in Northeast and Columbia Heights in Northwest.

The ACLU workers distributed window signs that read: "To the Police: NO CONSENT TO SEARCH OUR HOME," and gave residents questionnaires for the officers to sign that ask whether social services or immigration authorities would be notified about what is found inside homes.

D.C. Council member Marion Barry said the plan violates the Fourth Amendment, which bars illegal search and seizure. He also said it infringes on parental responsibility.

"If there's a parent who has a son who has a gun in the home and they know what to do, [then] they can call the police," said Mr. Barry, Ward 8 Democrat. "It's not that hard."
Council member Jim Graham, Ward 1 Democrat, said he needed more information before taking a position on the searches, but would be "very surprised" if his constituents consented to them.

"If they were to knock on my door, I'd be puzzled," said Mr. Graham, who dealt with several shootings last year in his ward, which includes Columbia Heights. "It seems very unusual."

The ACLU and Mr. Barry also have said they are concerned about the department's pledge of amnesty because it has acknowledged that guns will be tested for links to other crimes and a positive identification could lead to an investigation or prosecution of the gun owner.

Miss Hughes said the goal of the initiative is to seize guns and not to catch criminals. She said drugs found in homes will be seized, but residents will not be prosecuted. She said officers also would not report certain other issues such as housing violations.

"We want to make sure that residents are comfortable," she said. "If they don't want us to be there, we won't be there."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/artic...126475553/1004

mike77777 03-27-2008 01:41 PM

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politicians must be getting real paranoid to do this. if they would do their job and uphold the constitution, they would have no fear of well armed citizens. guess the police have an easier time hassling grandmothers at home than actually investigating and arresting armed felons.

phideaux 03-27-2008 02:07 PM

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George Orwell is frowning down on DC. :banghead:

He told us so, but we couldn't stop it. People like Ron Paul have been trying for decades.

silverblood 03-27-2008 02:11 PM

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I presume that this "polite" invasion of people's homes by knocking on the door is being done to help reduce the risk to the police when they later come to kick down the door and take whatever they find by force.

I hope everyone will deny them consent to search, but I know that won't be the case.

eyeofliberty 03-27-2008 02:14 PM

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Note to politicians:

Don't try this in Montana!

jdmlist 03-29-2008 09:03 AM

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or New Hampshire

Twisted Avatar 03-29-2008 09:11 AM

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Screw the state

DONT TRY THIS AT MY HOME........YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT!


T

ajrocks 03-29-2008 09:18 AM

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Scott, why are you surprised Marion Barry would appose this? He is obviously bery liberal!!!

prostitutes, drugs, mmm..seems to me he would be right along side Ron Paul.

Just my two cents....

Mumwaldee 03-29-2008 09:26 AM

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graspAU 03-29-2008 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 1034331)
Scott, why are you surprised Marion Barry would appose this? He is obviously bery liberal!!!

prostitutes, drugs, mmm..seems to me he would be right along side Ron Paul.

Just my two cents....

Oh, I agree with you. Remember "the B set him up". He's all for no illegal searches to hide what he's doing.

I just think it's interesting that other politicains don't stand up against this, we have to count on a crack cocaine user to defend our rights.

Twisted Avatar 03-29-2008 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scottp999 (Post 1031807)
They will go around knocking on doors, asking for permission to search houses. What a slippery slope we are on. Even more interesting is the person in the story that is opposing it, is former Mayor, conselman Marion Barry :banghead::

Police launch gun program
By David C. Lipscomb
March 25, 2008
The Metropolitan Police Department yesterday moved cautiously into its program to ask to search homes in the District for illegal guns while civil rights activists knocked on doors and used bullhorns to keep residents from participating.

"We shouldn't make the next casualty of street violence cherished civil rights," said Johnny Barnes, director of American Civil Liberties Union of the National Capital Area. "We're very uncomfortable with police randomly banging on doors without probable cause asking for access."

The department initiated its program by distributing literature at police stations and Boys and Girls Clubs to gauge public interest. It plans to begin the searches in two weeks.

Police spokeswoman Traci Hughes said the Safe Home program attempts to reach parents or guardians who think or know their children have guns and will offer amnesty for certain gun- and drug-possession charges.
Although amnesty was assured, ACLU workers held a press conference and went door to door in the Washington Highlands in Southeast, the first neighborhood to be targeted under the program. The department also has scheduled searches in Eckington in Northeast and Columbia Heights in Northwest.

The ACLU workers distributed window signs that read: "To the Police: NO CONSENT TO SEARCH OUR HOME," and gave residents questionnaires for the officers to sign that ask whether social services or immigration authorities would be notified about what is found inside homes.

D.C. Council member Marion Barry said the plan violates the Fourth Amendment, which bars illegal search and seizure. He also said it infringes on parental responsibility.

"If there's a parent who has a son who has a gun in the home and they know what to do, [then] they can call the police," said Mr. Barry, Ward 8 Democrat. "It's not that hard."
Council member Jim Graham, Ward 1 Democrat, said he needed more information before taking a position on the searches, but would be "very surprised" if his constituents consented to them.

"If they were to knock on my door, I'd be puzzled," said Mr. Graham, who dealt with several shootings last year in his ward, which includes Columbia Heights. "It seems very unusual."

The ACLU and Mr. Barry also have said they are concerned about the department's pledge of amnesty because it has acknowledged that guns will be tested for links to other crimes and a positive identification could lead to an investigation or prosecution of the gun owner.

Miss Hughes said the goal of the initiative is to seize guns and not to catch criminals. She said drugs found in homes will be seized, but residents will not be prosecuted. She said officers also would not report certain other issues such as housing violations.

"We want to make sure that residents are comfortable," she said. "If they don't want us to be there, we won't be there."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/artic...126475553/1004




If you beileve That the cops is gonna come IN YOUR HOUSE find guns and weed and not put your @$$ in the slammer.....YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FOOL ON THE FRICKEN PLANET!!!


Amnesty?? Law enforcement will "grant" amnesty?


haahahaahhahaahhahahaha !!!


Amensty is only as good as the word of the party providing it!.... YOU TRUST GUBBERMINT TO HONOUR THEIR PLEDGE??


T

Dusty 03-29-2008 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1031922)
Note to politicians:

Don't try this in Montana!

Quote un Quote= Or Texas >>>!:D:D:D:D:D

WeNeedARevolution 03-29-2008 01:41 PM

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Oh what a slippery slope we've found ourselves upon...

90%RealMoney 03-29-2008 01:45 PM

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This is just a nice little "Dry Run" research project.

Twisted Avatar 03-29-2008 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1034604)
This is just a nice little "Dry Run" research project.



BINGO!!!!


Keep stockpiling those holllowpoints guys and gals .......looks like we wil be needing them sooner rather than later.

These goons are playing for keeps......so should you

T

Unclad Lad 03-29-2008 01:50 PM

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This is no slippery slope--it's a coal chute right into the furnace. Aren't DC's leaders watching the news, or does the name Heller not mean anything to them?

glenpatton 03-29-2008 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1034609)
This is no slippery slope--it's a coal chute right into the furnace. Aren't DC's leaders watching the news, or does the name Heller not mean anything to them?

I would think that they are looking at Heller, Get rid of the guns before the Supreme Court rules and no more guns. You then have to buy new firearms and register them:shocked_ma:
How do they say oops sorry your guns have alreday been destroyed in Washington :D

jingles 03-29-2008 09:25 PM

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FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THAT FEARS YOUR GUNS

Finally the ACLU is doing something that I agree with.

AMforPM 03-30-2008 12:09 AM

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I'm glad there is organized publicity that you can reject the 'offered' search. Otherwise people might feel intimidated into letting it happen out of ignorance of the law.

Maple Leaf Steve 03-30-2008 12:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1034607)
BINGO!!!!


Keep stockpiling those holllowpoints guys and gals .......looks like we wil be needing them sooner rather than later.

These goons are playing for keeps......so should you

T


When you are in your house and defending, you want to load up on solid points!

Solid point ammo will go thru walls alot easier!

And they better not come knocking on my door or they will get some precious metals for free!

You know the precious metals that the dock fisherman use!

Maple Leaf Steve


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